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		<title>By: forms</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-3121</link>
		<dc:creator>forms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice tips... thanks a lot! it will be very useful on my part.... http://www.forms.com/
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forms.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Web Forms&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice tips&#8230; thanks a lot! it will be very useful on my part&#8230;. <a href="http://www.forms.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forms.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.forms.com/" rel="nofollow">Web Forms</a></p>
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		<title>By: SEO Daily Reading - Issue 130 &#171; Internet Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO Daily Reading - Issue 130 &#171; Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25 Web Form Optimization Tips &#8212; Not Converting? Take a Look at Your Forms [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dat To</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dat To</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing list thank you.  I always have to keep reminding myself to keep it simple because will go buy from the company that is simple, fast and easy to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing list thank you.  I always have to keep reminding myself to keep it simple because will go buy from the company that is simple, fast and easy to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Tips for Incredible Web Forms! &#124; Design Reviver</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 Tips for Incredible Web Forms! &#124; Design Reviver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article about web forms. Very helpful for designers and developers also.
Thank you Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article about web forms. Very helpful for designers and developers also.<br />
Thank you Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it depends on your application whether you want server side or client side authentication. Client side is fast and good but if you are working on a secure application then you must avoid client side and use server side authentication. Server side auth have its own disadvantages too like making calls to database each time you authenticate something against db. 

Anyways, all the points seems good. 

Nice post Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it depends on your application whether you want server side or client side authentication. Client side is fast and good but if you are working on a secure application then you must avoid client side and use server side authentication. Server side auth have its own disadvantages too like making calls to database each time you authenticate something against db. </p>
<p>Anyways, all the points seems good. </p>
<p>Nice post Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Stevie, most error messages like the ones you describe are worthless. It&#039;s very important that someone with marketing perspective reviews all web forms, and checks for errors such as these. 

Justin Palmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Stevie, most error messages like the ones you describe are worthless. It&#8217;s very important that someone with marketing perspective reviews all web forms, and checks for errors such as these. </p>
<p>Justin Palmer</p>
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		<title>By: stevie black</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevie black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 - Obnoxious Password Requirements

This may be the Number One reason form are left unfilled - developer/codetalkers simply don&#039;t get that a 12-digit alphanumeric batch with special characters thrown in simply isn&#039;t what we &quot;general publica&quot; think of as a password. Additionally, when we &quot;break&quot; the form by putting in a code or a character that the form can not feed on, more often than not, the error code is ridiculously unhelpful and, worse, dysfunctional.

Bottom Line?

If you are going to require a passcode that has all these difficult elements, good SEO and user experience requires that you do these four things:
#1
Explain the error to the user so that we can make the changes necessary in one step - making me riddle it out over 4-10 submissions simply isn&#039;t a formula for success.
#2
Remember, the error I put in a field might be at the top of the page - have the courtesy to have the cursor take me back to the first of the offending areas - or highlight the fields that bother the internal brain of the form - again, don&#039;t make me riddle it out - it&#039;s your form.
#3
If you need things to be more secure and require special characters to promote healthy strong password compliance - tell me that before I start and give me a suggestion for what I might use - e.g., &quot;youruSualpaSSword+@&quot;. Tell me what you need.
#4
If you don&#039;t need the password until the end, then make the forms and the process allow for as much openness as possible. Login means that I have to stop exploring - it makes me &quot;feel&quot; inside - or it makes me want to go to a site where they invite me in more as a guest and don&#039;t require me to be their BFF on the first date. It&#039;s psychology, but it works.

Thanks for listening.

SB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 &#8211; Obnoxious Password Requirements</p>
<p>This may be the Number One reason form are left unfilled &#8211; developer/codetalkers simply don&#8217;t get that a 12-digit alphanumeric batch with special characters thrown in simply isn&#8217;t what we &#8220;general publica&#8221; think of as a password. Additionally, when we &#8220;break&#8221; the form by putting in a code or a character that the form can not feed on, more often than not, the error code is ridiculously unhelpful and, worse, dysfunctional.</p>
<p>Bottom Line?</p>
<p>If you are going to require a passcode that has all these difficult elements, good SEO and user experience requires that you do these four things:<br />
#1<br />
Explain the error to the user so that we can make the changes necessary in one step &#8211; making me riddle it out over 4-10 submissions simply isn&#8217;t a formula for success.<br />
#2<br />
Remember, the error I put in a field might be at the top of the page &#8211; have the courtesy to have the cursor take me back to the first of the offending areas &#8211; or highlight the fields that bother the internal brain of the form &#8211; again, don&#8217;t make me riddle it out &#8211; it&#8217;s your form.<br />
#3<br />
If you need things to be more secure and require special characters to promote healthy strong password compliance &#8211; tell me that before I start and give me a suggestion for what I might use &#8211; e.g., &#8220;youruSualpaSSword+@&#8221;. Tell me what you need.<br />
#4<br />
If you don&#8217;t need the password until the end, then make the forms and the process allow for as much openness as possible. Login means that I have to stop exploring &#8211; it makes me &#8220;feel&#8221; inside &#8211; or it makes me want to go to a site where they invite me in more as a guest and don&#8217;t require me to be their BFF on the first date. It&#8217;s psychology, but it works.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening.</p>
<p>SB</p>
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		<title>By: How to collect Names and Addresses on a Web Form?</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to collect Names and Addresses on a Web Form?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Best of 2008: Top 10 Website Optimization Posts to Kick Start and Improve Your Website!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of 2008: Top 10 Website Optimization Posts to Kick Start and Improve Your Website!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25 Web Form Optimization Tips Badly designed forms can often be a major cause of poorly optimized websites. Justin Palmer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How To Optimize Your Site Forms</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Optimize Your Site Forms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: .eduGuru Links of the Week for November 14th, 2008 &#124; .eduGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>.eduGuru Links of the Week for November 14th, 2008 &#124; .eduGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25 Web Form Optimization Tips - With web forms playing such an important role in the completing goals, it goes without saying that we should optimize the heck out of them. Below are 25 tips for doing just that. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 50+ Must Read Web Design for ROI, Usability and SEO Articles &#124; Last 24 hours news website</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2170</link>
		<dc:creator>50+ Must Read Web Design for ROI, Usability and SEO Articles &#124; Last 24 hours news website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gMoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>gMoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy smokes!  This is an outstanding resource that any and all website owners should have a read of.

Love #11 as it&#039;s a huge petpeeve of mine as well.  Users that are used to being more productive by using keyboard shortcuts shouldn&#039;t be penalized simply because table layouts are not done correctly.  Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy smokes!  This is an outstanding resource that any and all website owners should have a read of.</p>
<p>Love #11 as it&#8217;s a huge petpeeve of mine as well.  Users that are used to being more productive by using keyboard shortcuts shouldn&#8217;t be penalized simply because table layouts are not done correctly.  Kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: Link Love - Tuesday 04/11/2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Love - Tuesday 04/11/2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25 Web Form Optimization Tips on PalmerWebMarketing. Here you can get 25 simple and important tips for the web Form Optimization. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jillian</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips. For #8 - I always appreciate seeing an example for dates, telephone numbers and serial numbers.  And since this is the internet with a global audience, address fields for international customers is a must. Also, if an order form for products a currency conversion tool and international shipping info (or restrictions) is helpful.
Thanks for this list - I needed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips. For #8 &#8211; I always appreciate seeing an example for dates, telephone numbers and serial numbers.  And since this is the internet with a global audience, address fields for international customers is a must. Also, if an order form for products a currency conversion tool and international shipping info (or restrictions) is helpful.<br />
Thanks for this list &#8211; I needed it.</p>
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		<title>By: ROI, Usability и SEO статии</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROI, Usability и SEO статии</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ecommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post is just great and useful especially for newbies. 

Anyway for the beginners that read this post, don&#039;t forget to proper validate the user input and avoid hacking attempts on your brand new form, especially SQL injection and XSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post is just great and useful especially for newbies. </p>
<p>Anyway for the beginners that read this post, don&#8217;t forget to proper validate the user input and avoid hacking attempts on your brand new form, especially SQL injection and XSS.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGrok&#8217;s Not-To-Miss Links for the Week 10/31/08 &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheGrok&#8217;s Not-To-Miss Links for the Week 10/31/08 &#124; FutureNow's GrokDotCom / Marketing Optimization Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25 Web Form Optimization Tips - Covers most of the basics, a good reminder. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 50+ Must Read Web Design for ROI, Usability and SEO Articles &#124; SEOptimise</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2146</link>
		<dc:creator>50+ Must Read Web Design for ROI, Usability and SEO Articles &#124; SEOptimise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gunjan Pandya</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunjan Pandya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks....

Really its great tips for Form Optimization</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;.</p>
<p>Really its great tips for Form Optimization</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Asia Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Asia Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right about the Captcha. I once tried to pay for a web hosting plan at a well known webhosting company and the Captcha was not working. I gave up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the Captcha. I once tried to pay for a web hosting plan at a well known webhosting company and the Captcha was not working. I gave up.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2142</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt,

All great points, but if you have a double opt-in you should be OK.</description>
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<p>All great points, but if you have a double opt-in you should be OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Optimizing Websites for Short Attention Spans</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2139</link>
		<dc:creator>Optimizing Websites for Short Attention Spans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many fields, too little time. Do your web forms stay on a need to know basis, or are you quizzing your customers for information you&#8217;ll never [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.palmerwebmarketing.com/blog/25-web-form-optimization-tips/comment-page-1/#comment-2118</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt,

All great points. A decision like removing a captcha must be considered in light of other ramifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt,</p>
<p>All great points. A decision like removing a captcha must be considered in light of other ramifications.</p>
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